FudiFudi said: Wow, you lined up almost exactly to this list I posted earlier.I prefer subs personally. Not like I hate dubs. Here are some reasons why I prefer subs more than dubs. >Dubbed anime are intended to be aired on TV. They are more censored than the subbed anime. >The voice actors. There are some people out there who watch anime voiced by their favourite voice actors. The voice actors do an amazing job voicing them which is lost in dubs. Start watching some anime in subs you have already seen in dub and you will understand the difference. >There are certain words used by the characters which lose their meaning when translated to dubs. They don't have much impact. They are plain. I'll say it again..."They are TOO plain" >THIS IS THE ONE THING I HATE ABOUT DUBS. The Honorifics. THE HONORIFICS DAMMIT. How can you address your teacher without adding -sensei?!! How can you call a girl without adding -chan?!! How can you show your respect without adding -sama?!! The Dubs address the people with their names directly and it pisses me off to no end. Where are the honorifics?! Didn't your parents teach you some manners!! Those are some reasons I prefer subs I guess. I would like to say If you are going to watch anime then watch it properly. Embrace the Japanese culture. Don't watch them dubbed. That is half-baked shit in my opinion. Anyways, it's up to you to decide. Not that that's a bad thing. Just a matter of preference. And I guess I feel vindicated or something that my assessments were accurate or something. |
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| The most amusing meta-thing about this is that I'd like to be a "dub purist" just to counterbalance the dub haters, except I can't because about half of what I watch is subbed (i.e. Japanese dub). Just among things I started watching recently, I found one series where for the first time I actually knew there was an (American English) dub but then after trying it I decided to go with the Japanese voicework instead. This would be Kannazuki no Miko. And I also found another series where switching from Japanese to English for the voicework made the story come to life a lot more. This would be You're Under Arrest. I think being in English helps with YUA's humor and thus its "fun factor". |
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| I too wonder this... It's kind of frustrating but to each their own. I really enjoy comparing the original japanese audio to the english dub, even though the japanese is usually better... That's probably why people hate dubs. But just because most dubs are mediocre doesn't mean they're all bad. Dubs nowadays are good quality. Not to mention, having popular VAs in multiple shows break immersion, which ruins the point of anime. Though, people saying Japanese is a superior language makes no sense... the average Japanese otaku might think anime VAs are mediocre actors themselves. Just depends on perspective and how open-minded one is. I watch most shows in both and it's fun to judge and critic dubs. Funimation and most of the actors are entertaining, and good people. Most people are biased towards subs because they're either weebs, elitists, or just regular people with an opinion.... Or all :/ |
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FudiFudi said: I prefer subs personally. Not like I hate dubs. Here are some reasons why I prefer subs more than dubs. >Dubbed anime are intended to be aired on TV. They are more censored than the subbed anime. >The voice actors. There are some people out there who watch anime voiced by their favourite voice actors. The voice actors do an amazing job voicing them which is lost in dubs. Start watching some anime in subs you have already seen in dub and you will understand the difference. >There are certain words used by the characters which lose their meaning when translated to dubs. They don't have much impact. They are plain. I'll say it again..."They are TOO plain" >THIS IS THE ONE THING I HATE ABOUT DUBS. The Honorifics. THE HONORIFICS DAMMIT. How can you address your teacher without adding -sensei?!! How can you call a girl without adding -chan?!! How can you show your respect without adding -sama?!! The Dubs address the people with their names directly and it pisses me off to no end. Where are the honorifics?! Didn't your parents teach you some manners!! Those are some reasons I prefer subs I guess. I would like to say If you are going to watch anime then watch it properly. Embrace the Japanese culture. Don't watch them dubbed. That is half-baked shit in my opinion. Anyways, it's up to you to decide. Good points goddammit character limit why |
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Energetic-Nova said: Why do people think Death Note is better dubbed? It is one of the worst dubs I have heard and I LOVE dubs. But Light's voice especially is terrible. It is actually the anime that made me decide to only watch subbed for a while. XD *Cough*Agreed*Cough* character limit why |
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yonderly said: Energetic-Nova said: Why do people think Death Note is better dubbed? It is one of the worst dubs I have heard and I LOVE dubs. But Light's voice especially is terrible. It is actually the anime that made me decide to only watch subbed for a while. XD *Cough*Agreed*Cough* character limit why Makes me wonder if anime dubs would be looked at more fondly if they changed all the names to western ones. As I have noticed ones which do change the names, are met with some criticism at first, are usually loved later. If you notice, they don't pronounce the names Eru or Raito in the anime and Misa is a very easy name to say. :/ Really makes you question if they are hearing the acting at all. And most of the dubs I hear people praise or not take issue with: either changed the names or have western names to begin with. "ILL TAKE A POTATO CHIP, AND EAT IT!!!" I can stand some side character sounding bad, but damn the main character? Can't do it. Back when I had the name Jonouchi Katsuya, very few people, despite all the subs only people, even knew it was a Yugioh reference. *rolls eyes* And that is one of the few anime you COULD complain about for changing basically the entire premise of the show. <--- the acting was good in the Yugioh dub though. Even if they censored it to heck. Fact is, the sub cuts out honorifics too. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: FudiFudi said: Wow, you lined up almost exactly to this list I posted earlier.I prefer subs personally. Not like I hate dubs. Here are some reasons why I prefer subs more than dubs. >Dubbed anime are intended to be aired on TV. They are more censored than the subbed anime. >The voice actors. There are some people out there who watch anime voiced by their favourite voice actors. The voice actors do an amazing job voicing them which is lost in dubs. Start watching some anime in subs you have already seen in dub and you will understand the difference. >There are certain words used by the characters which lose their meaning when translated to dubs. They don't have much impact. They are plain. I'll say it again..."They are TOO plain" >THIS IS THE ONE THING I HATE ABOUT DUBS. The Honorifics. THE HONORIFICS DAMMIT. How can you address your teacher without adding -sensei?!! How can you call a girl without adding -chan?!! How can you show your respect without adding -sama?!! The Dubs address the people with their names directly and it pisses me off to no end. Where are the honorifics?! Didn't your parents teach you some manners!! Those are some reasons I prefer subs I guess. I would like to say If you are going to watch anime then watch it properly. Embrace the Japanese culture. Don't watch them dubbed. That is half-baked shit in my opinion. Anyways, it's up to you to decide. Not that that's a bad thing. Just a matter of preference. And I guess I feel vindicated or something that my assessments were accurate or something. Lool. Didn't notice that. Those are the main reasons why people hate dubs. I'm not surprised that our answers are same. Thank you! |
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yonderly said: I'm not sure it's necessarily "better" -- sometimes a joke or a moment works better if it's done naturally rather than trying to stick to the original meaning, even if you get to explain it in text on the screen.I too wonder this... It's kind of frustrating but to each their own. I really enjoy comparing the original japanese audio to the english dub, even though the japanese is usually better... Also, have you ever tried watching something both dubbed and subbed at the same time? i.e. English dub + English subtitles which aren't necessarily the same. It's interesting to see how they differ. Some shows differ by more, and I find that that difference sometimes makes for a more enjoyable performance. |
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| dubs are awkward and when it comes to wording its pretty bad that it ruins the mood (saying "big bro" instead of "aniki" makes it feel less manly ETC) subs make it a little difficult for me to focus on watching an anime if you are not a fast reader but its more immersive with its originality (it sounds more natural when a show, regardless of language, has its original voice casters voicing the characters in their native language) |
xoO_Jerry_Oox said: dubs are awkward and when it comes to wording its pretty bad that it ruins the mood (saying "big bro" instead of "aniki" makes it feel less manly ETC) Personally, my preference when it comes to things like this is to go with a less literal translation but instead use something that conveys the same "feel". Some people object to this on the basis of authenticity, but I think that dub scriptwriters should feel free to make use of slang, nicknames, etc. where appropriate to convey the intended experience. I think that dubs from recent years tend to stick a little too close to the literal meaning for this to flow right, compared to dubs from about a decade ago. |
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| They either personally love Japanese dub or prefer English sub. |
PastelDays said: Energetic-Nova said: Why do people think Death Note is better dubbed? It is one of the worst dubs I have heard and I LOVE dubs. But Light's voice especially is terrible. It is actually the anime that made me decide to only watch subbed for a while. XD I prefer Death Note dubbed. Though honestly I could go both ways, because they both are basically at the same level for me. I don't know how to describe it. I just think L's voice is perfect in each of them. They sound kind of the same to me. So I go for dub because it's easier to understand, and I like being able to focus on the animations more. I guess I can see why Light's voice might be kind of weird. Sounds decent enough to me personally. (: I think it’s just really One of the first times I watched anime first subbed. The dub didn’t come out for a lot longer after I watched it. So I got really used to one voice. I have heard his VA and one other thing and I like him better there. Video Girl Ai |
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Energetic-Nova said: I think it’s just really One of the first times I watched anime first subbed. The dub didn’t come out for a lot longer after I watched it. So I got really used to one voice. I have heard his VA and one other thing and I like him better there. Video Girl Ai I get that. It's the same for me when I watched Black Butler. Originally I watched it in Japanese, and now I have more of a fondness for that version. Which shouldn't make sense because the anime takes place in England. I should be listening to their English accents. And I notice many other people seem to prefer it dubbed. I'm just used to sub here. P: |
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| I'd rather hear something the way it was intended to be heard rather than let an american get free money for butchering an anime I like. I have a few friends who prefer dubs and I don't knock them for It, although I always recommend subs to them. When I'm done watching an anime I really enjoyed sometimes I'll go back and watch it In dub just for the hell of It. I think the last one ?I did like that was Tanya the evil and it wasn't too bad tbh. |
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| Sub is the original version. Besides what makes up an anime for me is Japanese voice actors. I don't hate dub though, I just prefer sub. |
| I don't hate dubs, but i highly prefer subs because those japense voice actors are often specifically selected for a certain role because he or she does it very well. With dubs you replace that person with a random other person, now that person might still do a good job but it's rarely on the level of the japense voice actor. Even with subs some is lost due to translation tho, i would watch raws if i could speak japanese. |
Unyversu said: Because of shit like this Example: Brother Dub = Big Brother ( Cringe fest ) Sub = Onii-chan // Anaki <- Probably spelled it wrong Example: Saying names Dub: My name is Katanashi Yujiro kairo and i will be attending to your school this year ( Cringe ) Sub : Watashinonamaeha Katanashi Yujiro kairodesu. Kotoshi wa anata no gakkō ni kayou tsumoridesu I pulled that Sub from Google translate so it could be plenty wrong in there i am just making a point right Sub is better because it plays the voice the way it's supposed to be while the dubbed version is so hard to watch because you die on the inside when they say japanese shit ( Names, Schools, areas, ) when they are talking in english! then they just casually go back to english. However there are a few hidden gems out there like Death Note & Black Lagoon These 2 shows are actually better in dubbed then subbed to be honest expect for the ending where Kira laughs because of somthing So in my opinion Sub be better then dub you forgot the panty nd stocking dub in the exceptions |
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| I love dubs but the spanish ones. There are shows I won't watch if they're not with spanish dubs, like Dragon Ball or Slam Dunk. Most english dubs are terrible though, so I wouldn't go there. |
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ahneeme said: There's ways to transfer this meaning to a dub, in the wording of the script and the delivery/tone of voice used. While English doesn't use pronouns and honorifics the same way as Japanese does, those same meanings exist in English-speaking countries, just expressed in different ways. A good dub will pay attention to these things and make them work naturally, so it's not just like us native English-speakers as outsiders reading subs and trying to intellectually understand what it means for a native Japanese-speaker to hear this, but rather us native English-speakers actually "feeling" it on a more fundamental level.I like the subtleties of Japanese for even simpler things like pronouns. For example Yakumo in Rakugo Shinjuu uses "atashi" which isn't typically used by, it adds a little extra to his character you know. In Houseki no Kuni too where the gems are genderless but their way of speaking can be either a little more masculine or feminine where some used ore and others used boku. Or when they speak in dialect or if they always speak informally and not politely, like Luffy who has never spoken in formal language. All this shit gets lost in translation. |
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| Well I prefer Dubs. To put it simply: I like to watch the character expression with ease. I can, and will, read subbed anime, but if I can, I will watch the anime dubbed. I don't mean to be rude, but I often struggle to tell the difference between a lot of Japanese voice actors, mostly because my brain is handling reading, observing the show, and interpreting what I see into something enjoyable and not just a workload. Listening to it in English saves a whole lot of effort. I think that those who say it is the way it is meant to be seen are just not getting how TV works in a globalised world society. Subtitles are, thankfully, translated into a more readable format as it is. Dubs only take it slightly further by making it so that the voice actors can time their lines better with the characters on screen. If that isn't good effort, then I don't know what is. Also, and I make this my biggest vendetta against Subbed anime, their English is horrid! Coming from England, I know what an English person should sound like. It isn't cockney. It isn't Jordie. It isn't Chav. It isn't Theresa May or Queen speak. It most certainly is not: |
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Wyn said: I'm a dub watcher, only watch sub if I really have too. Can't get into a show reading subtitles and listening to a language I don't understand. I was starting to think I was the only one. I've wasted so much energy on so many different forums arguing with sub fans about my choices too... I've gotten to the point where I just say, "who the hell cares? Am I making YOU watch it dubbed? No? Then step off." The idea that so many sub fans I've stumbled into arguments with insist that you're not a "true" anime fan unless you watch it subtitled is so freakishly laughable that I just step back and shake my head. |
Ai-no-Miko said: The idea that so many sub fans I've stumbled into arguments with insist that you're not a "true" anime fan unless you watch it subtitled is so freakishly laughable that I just step back and shake my head.  Your words ring true to every fan of Dubs. |
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| It doesnt sound right. Plus most dubs dont have any emotion when speaking compared to the regular voice actors |
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Ai-no-Miko said: I'm a dub watcher too but I can't say I "can't get into a show reading subtitles", because I definitely have.Wyn said: I'm a dub watcher, only watch sub if I really have too. Can't get into a show reading subtitles and listening to a language I don't understand. I was starting to think I was the only one. I've wasted so much energy on so many different forums arguing with sub fans about my choices too... I've gotten to the point where I just say, "who the hell cares? Am I making YOU watch it dubbed? No? Then step off." The idea that so many sub fans I've stumbled into arguments with insist that you're not a "true" anime fan unless you watch it subtitled is so freakishly laughable that I just step back and shake my head. And it's not like I've gotten into all the dubs I've watched, either. But still, when dubs click right, they are glorious. |
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ZaStevo said: There are more bad dubs than good dubs unfortunately. Those who indiscriminately hate dubs though are straight losers though who have an affinity for unrealistically high-pitched japanese school girls. U deserve a bag cookies. I don't always hate dubs, but when I do my weebmeter was hitting the top. |
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| Y'know the more I think about it the more I realize I just legit don't much like...not sure how else to call it other than "cutesy Japanese girl voice". For example, Ao Gennai's voice in this video, or Asuka Kurashina's voice in this video. Like, I gloss over it when I watch shows that have it, because I do encounter it frequently in the shows I watch, and I can still enjoy a show and even connect to a character despite it. (Just now I found myself going off on a tangent listening to Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm's soundtrack, because looking for videos from that show reminded me of its charm.) English dubs just sorta nullify this problem, which means I can enjoy it more "freely", so to speak, rather than having to gloss over something I'm not really in love with. Obviously, if you prefer that kind of voice, you'd naturally prefer "subs", or more accurately, you'd prefer the Japanese audio. That just makes sense. |
GlennMagusHarveyJan 27, 2018 11:18 PM
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| I used to only watch dubs purely for the convenience. However as time moved on I've moved to only subs since I feel dubs very rarely capture the emotion and character's personalities very well compared to the subs (the only exception to that would be some of the first animes that I watched as well as Initial D). Dialogue and even the most basic character interactions in dubs also just feel extremely clunky and unnatural to me (English pronunciations of Japanese names also bothers me to no end). |
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AkiKitazawa said: I've occasionally watched series (ones that aren't made for kids, and are certainly more recent than the 90s!) with both dubs and subs at the same time, and I've found that those that are more willing to deviate from the literal script a bit in order to tell a story with more satisfying lines tend to be a bit more enjoyable. One of my faves, Kiddy Grade, is an example of this -- the deviation is not so big as to change the story, but it is enough that the English script doesn't feel constrained by the exact translation. And I absolutely love the dub.juliuscaesar387 said: Subtitles are, thankfully, translated into a more readable format as it is. Dubs only take it slightly further by making it so that the voice actors can time their lines better with the characters on screen. Not completely true. I can only think of game examples but sometimes dialogue is adjusted to fit the 'western culture' better. I play some games with Japanese audio and English text (which are just the subtitles to the English audio) and notice that what is being said is different from what I'm reading. Sometimes I find that it even changes the characters personality somewhat. I'm willing to bet this holds true for anime as well. Edit: lol, I just had to think about the "jelly filled donuts" from pokemon. BTW I recently watched a couple of rather informative videos about dubbing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGyxm1zsijk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wrkvjd6GJQ (And in case you're worried: no, these aren't videos simply praising or making excuses for dubs. Quite a lot of criticism in them, in fact. Also the second video has a rather specific overall topic, but does actually stray into a lot of useful information.) EndingPage said: Meanwhile someone just showed me this video (apparently it's the Aikatsu Friends! Baton Touch announcement video or something) and even before its 44 seconds were over the voices started to blend together somewhat.voice actors for the dubs sound the same it's like they hire the same 5 voice actors for every dub, and the japanese voice actors always sound better and fit the characters more than the dubs |
GlennMagusHarveyFeb 4, 2018 10:16 AM
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| I have to say I prefer to watched Subbed anime, just as I like to watch subbed films. There are some that I do have a fondness for the dub of though: Dominion Tank Police Acts 1-4 - The dub is quite accurate to the subtitles and the voices all pretty much match the Japanese voice actors in general sound, with the exception of the Puma Sisters who in the Japanese version are High Pitched but in the dub are sultry, and I think sultry suits them better. Lucky Star - I started off watching this dubbed on youtube in bits and carried on like that I think again the voice actors do a great job matching the sound of the originals. B Gata H Kei (Yamada's first time) - The translation again is pretty faithful and do a good job conveying the character, and I do love the voice actor for Yamada. Akira - Well this is pure nostalgia for the Original Streamline dub as it was the first Anime I ever watched. With Leonardo as Kanada, I can't just this one fairly. Also Ghost Stories with it's totally inaccurate hilariously offensive dub is the best of all. But mostly Subs not dubs. |
| I don't hate dubs-I love dubs. I get so fucking sick of all the argument about dubs vs. subs, watch what the shit you want. It's like the argument about yellow vs. white subtitles-stupid. |
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